February 7, 2016

Growing organic & GMO-free veggies, fruit and nuts

Updated list of trees still available to add to our fruit tree order

I just went through my spreadsheet with the listing of trees I considered ordering a week ago and updated availability. They’re going fast!

I did not add any trees to my list with:

  • Rootstock I didn’t care for such as Citation (not drought tolerant)
  • Low chill hours (bloom to early, frost damage, I ordered one persimmons and it might not do well here)
  • Dwarfs and miniatures
  • Multi grafts
  • Apples (quite a few still available)

I did NOT order any trees NOT grown on rootstock and as we looking for cuttings for propagating from local trees with quality fruit such as figs, jujube, mulberries, olives, pomegranates, …

Our order is posted at http://highdesertpermaculture.org/blog/2016/02/02/our-bay-laurel-bareroot-fruit-nut-tree-order/

To check for CURRENT availability please check at https://baylaurelnursery.com — at least 80% sold out already!

We get a 20% discount and save 15% on shipping.

We can add to our order until they ship it around mid February and I should have all add-on orders by eve of Thu 2/11.  Since they’re selling out fast, sooner is better!

UPDATED listing of Bay Laurel Nursery fruit trees available as of 2/3/16 AM:

Flora Gold Apricot – Standard
Medium to large, very flavorful freestone used for canning, cooking, drying, fresh eating. More consistently productive than many other apricots due to being less susceptible to dropping flowers in areas with considerable difference in spring day and nighttime temperatures. Early June harvest, 2-3 weeks before Blenheim (Royal). Very good quality. 400 hours or less. Self-fruitful. (Zaiger) Available on Myro. 24.94

Tomcot Apricot – Standard
The most consistently productive apricot variety at Dave Wilson Nursery 1992-97. Large, orange fruit with firm, sweet flesh. Early harvest (late May, early June). 500 hours or less. Partly self-fruitful; biggest crops if cross-pollinated by another apricot. Pat. No. 7034. Available on Myro. 24.95

Tilton Apricot – Standard
No. 1 apricot for canning, also used fresh and dried. Medium to large, firm, rich flavor; one of the best. Widely adapted; reported resistant to brown rot. Ripens in early July. 600 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro. 24.95

Montrose Apricot – Standard
Fruit is large with beautiful yellow skin and a red blush. Yellow flesh is sweet and very juicy. From Montrose, Colorado; very hardy and frost resistant. Pit is sweet and edible. Ripens in mid July after Chinese. 800 hours. Available on Myro. 24.95

Harcot Apricot – Standard
Outstanding apricot variety from Canada with frost hardy late bloom. Resists brown rot and perennial canker. Medium to large freestone fruit ripens mid June. Sweet, juicy, rich flavor – one of the best. 700 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro. 24.95

Flora Gold Apricot – Standard
Medium to large, very flavorful freestone used for canning, cooking, drying, fresh eating. More consistently productive than many other apricots due to being less susceptible to dropping flowers in areas with considerable difference in spring day and nighttime temperatures. Early June harvest, 2-3 weeks before Blenheim (Royal). Very good quality. 400 hours or less. Self-fruitful. (Zaiger) Available on Myro. 24.95

Shinko Asian Pear – Semi-dwarf
Late blooming and late ripening with excellent quality. Large, juicy, sweet, crisp, flavorful russet type Asian pear with greenish or golden brown skin. Variety most resistant to fireblight. Bears very young and then heavily every year; best with thinning. Ripens in September; keeps well. 450 hours. Pollinated by Hosui, Chojuro, Kikusui, Bartlett. Available on OHxF333. 27.95

Lapins Cherry – Semi-dwarf
New self-fruitful cherry from Canada. Large, firm, dark red sweet cherry with good flavor. Fruit not prone to splitting. Ripens in early June, 4 days after Bing. 400 hours or less. Self-fruitful; good pollenizer for other cherries. Available on Colt. 27.95

Royal Rainier Cherry – Semi-dwarf — SOLD OUT
Large, yellow cherry with slightly more red blush than Rainier. Excellent flavor, taste test winner. Ripens early, about 3-5 days ahead of Rainier. Pollenizer required: Lapins for low chill areas and in other areas, any sweet cherry. Moderate chill requirement, 500 hours estimated. Available on Colt. 27.95

Stella Cherry – Standard — SOLD OUT
Self-fruitful; no pollenizer needed. Large, nearly black, richly flavored sweet cherry similar to its parent, Lambert. Late harvest (early to mid June). 400 hours. Pollenizes Bing, except in mild winter climates. Available on Mazz. 24.95

English Morello Cherry – Standard 24.95
Late ripening (mid June) tart cherry for cooking, sometimes eaten fresh when fully ripe. Dark red to nearly black fruit has dark juice. Small, round-headed tree has drooping branches, is easy to harvest. 500 hours or less. Self-fruitful. Available on Mazz.

Arctic Jay Nectarine – Standard
Taste test winner. Very attractive, firm, freestone, white fleshed fruit is richly flavored, with a balance of sugar and acid. Ripens in July, between Arctic Glo and Heavenly White nectarines. 500 hrs. or less. Self-fruitful. Pat. No. 9908 (Zaiger). Available on Lov. 27.95

Atomic Red Double Flowering and Fruiting Nectarine – Standard
Another Zaiger success! Very tasty white fleshed fruit is preceded by intensely deep red double blooms. Ripens in mid to late June. 500 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on Nema. 27.95

Fantasia Nectarine – Standard
Popular yellow freestone nectarine with large fruit. Harvest firm-ripe and tangy or soft-ripe and sweet with rich flavor. High scoring in taste tests. Ripens in late July/early August. 500 hrs. or less. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Flavortop Nectarine – Standard
Firm, yellow freestone with excellent quality. One of the highest scoring nectarines in DWN fruit tastings. Ripens in mid July. Has large showy blossoms. 650 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Independence Nectarine – Standard
Consistently very high scoring in taste tests. Firm yellow freestone nectarine with bright red skin. Flavor is rich, tangy and sweet, one of the best. Winter and frost hardy; very reliable producer. Ripens in early July. 700 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Mericrest Nectarine – Standard
Very cold and frost hardy with late bloom. Crops after sub-zero winters. Large, red skinned yellow freestone nectarine with rich, tangy flavor. Very high scoring in taste tests, highly recommended. Ripens mid-July. 800 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Snow Queen Nectarine – Standard
Taste test winner. Sweet, juicy, early season white freestone nectarine; longtime favorite in southern Calif. Ripens in late June, 2-3 weeks before Babcock. 250-300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Nema. 24.95

Tri-Lite Peach X Plum – Standard
Incredible, delicate flavored fruit! This white fleshed peach x plum can be eaten firm. It has a mild classic white peach flavor and finishes with a wonderful plum aftertaste that makes this fruit a unique treat. Early ripening in June. Superior quality canning clingstone. 4-500 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 26.95

Babcock Peach – Standard
Longtime favorite white fleshed, freestone peach. Sweet and juicy, aromatic, subacid. Ripens mid July. Widely adapted: low chilling requirement, yet not early blooming. 250-300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on: Lov. 24.95

Donut (Stark Saturn) Peach – Standard — SOLD OUT
Unique white fleshed, freestone peach with a sunken center – shaped like a doughnut. Sweet, with a mild, almond-like flavor. Ripens late June/early July. 2-300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Nema. 24.95

Earlitreat Peach – Standard
Delicious new low chill, very early peach with flavor and sweetness comparable to mid season varieties. Medium sized, has attractive red over yellow skin. Yellow flesh has very nice acid/sugar balance. Highly recommended for home orchards. Ripens early May in Central Calif. 500 hrs. or less. Self-fruitful. Pat. No. 9842 (Zaiger). Available on Nema. 26.95

Elberta Peach – Standard
Famous yellow freestone with classic, rich peach flavor; high scoring in taste tests. Use fresh, canned, cooked. Reported resistant to brown rot. Ripens late July/early August, up to 3-4 weeks later in colder climates. 600 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Loring Peach – Standard
Superb, large, low acid yellow freestone peach with excellent flavor and texture; recent taste-test winner. Requires little or no thinning. Late blooming. Ripens over 2-3 week period beginning in mid to late July. Excellent for home orchards. 750 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Red Baron Flowering and Fruiting Peach – Standard
Flowering and fruiting peach variety. Highly ornamental with very showy, double red blossoms which cover the tree in early spring. Yellow freestone fruit is large, firm, sweet, juicy and richly flavored. Longtime favorite in so. Calif. Ripens in mid July to mid August. Low chilling requirement, 250-300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Pat. No. 4195. Available on Nema. 24.95

Rio Oso Gem Peach – Standard
Large, favorite, late yellow freestone peach with sweet, rich flavor, like J.H. Hale. Use fresh/freeze. Small tree with showy bloom; late blooming. Ripens in mid August. 800 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Summerset Peach – Standard — SOLD OUT
Fine, large, sweet, flavorful, late season yellow freestone peach. Ripens late; early Sept. after Rio Oso Gem. Used fresh, canned and for freezing. 700 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 24.95

Sweet Bagel Peach – Standard
Flat “donut” shaped peach with yellow flesh and classic peach flavor. Has large fruit and sets heavily in California’s Central Valley. 300-400 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on Nema. 27.95

Blake’s Pride Pear – Semi-dwarf
A new pear cultivar, similar to Bartlett but with a high degree of resistance to fireblight. The fruit is highly rated for flavor and consistent yield. The aromatic fruit is yellow with some russetting and a buttery texture. 800 hrs. Pollenizer required. Interfruitful with Bartlett, Bosc, Potomac and Harrow Delight. Available on OHxF333 27.95

Fan-Stil Pear – Standard
Medium, bell shaped pear has crisp, juicy, white flesh and creamy yellow skin with slight red blush. Vigorous, very upright growth. Bears consistently. Highly resistant to fireblight. Ripens in August. 500 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Pear. 27.95

Harrow Delight Pear – Semi-dwarf
Fireblight resistant with fruit similiar to Bartlett. Yellow skin with attractive red blush. Smooth, fine flesh is especially flavorful. Ripens two weeks before Bartlett. Heavy bearing tree. Interfruitful with Bartlett, Bosc, D’Anjou and Moonglow. 800 hrs. Available on OHxF333.

Kieffer Pear – Semi-dwarf
Medium to large pear with greenish yellow skin blushed red. Flesh is crisp and juicy with sprightly flavor and coarse texture. Stores well. Tree is highly resistant to damage from extreme hot or cold temperatures, also resistant to fireblight. Use for cooking and canning. Dependable crops; ripens Sept. to Oct. 2-300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on OHxF333. 27.95

Monterrey Pear – Standard
Large apple shaped pear with yellow-green skin. Smooth textured, crisp, with high quality, sweet flavored flesh. Vigorous, upright tree is hardy and blight resistant. Ripens Aug./Sept. 300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Pear. 27.95

Orient Pear – Semi-dwarf
Beautiful large, nearly round fruit with shiny yellow skin and red blush. Flesh is firm and juicy with mild flavor. Used mainly for canning. Fireblight resistant. Introduced in 1945. Large, vigorous tree, heavy producer. Better with a pollenizer; interfruitful with Kieffer and Moonglow. Ripens in August. 350 hours. Available on OHxF333. 27.95

Potomac Pear – Semi-dwarf
Moonglow x Buerre D’Anjou. Ripens to a light green. Flesh texture is moderately fine and buttery. Pleasingly subacid flavor with mild aroma. Tree shows more resistance to fireblight than Seckel. Developed by the USDA and Ohio State University. 800 hrs. Pollenizer required. Available on OHxF333. 27.95

Seckel (Sugar) Pear – Semi-dwarf — SOLD OUT
Connoisseur’s favorite. Sweet, flavorful, aromatic, spicy pear, perhaps the best. Russetted brown skin. Resists fireblight. One of the most cold hardy. Ripens in Aug. 500 hrs.; full crop 800 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on OHxF 333. 27.95

Southern Bartlett Pear – Semi-dwarf
Variety was discovered on an old Louisiana homestead and is thought to be a chance sport of Bartlett. Tree tends to grow in a spreading pattern. Moderate resistance to fireblight. Ripens early to mid August. 300 to 400 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on OHxF333. 27.95

Warren Pear – Semi-dwarf — SOLD OUT
Excellent quality dessert pear and highly resistant to fireblight. Medium to large, long necked fruit with pale green skin, sometimes blushed red. Smooth flesh (no grit cells) is juicy and buttery with superb flavor. Good keeper. Cold hardy to -20 F. Ripens in mid August. 600 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on OHxF333. 27.95

Fuyu (Jiro) Persimmon (it may be too cold here for Persimmon)
Medium sized, non-astringent persimmon with flat shape, still hard when ripe. Cool or hot climates. Hardy, attractive tree, practically pest free. Fall harvest, mid Oct. through Nov. 200 hrs. Self-fruitful. On Lotus rootstock. 41.95

Saijo Persimmon
Old Japanese variety known as ‘The Very Best One.’ Medium, elongated, yellow fruit. Gourmets claim it to be the sweetest of the persimmons. Cold hardy to Zone 6. Astringent. Can be dried while firm; this process removes the astringency. 200 hrs. Self-fruitful. On Kaki rootstock. 42.95

Hachiya Persimmon
Large, deep orange red, acorn shaped persimmon. Hot summer required to ripen fruit. Sweet, flavorful, astringent until soft-ripe. Productive, ornamental. Late harvest, mid Nov. to early Dec. 200 hrs. Self-fruitful. On Lotus rootstock. 41.95

Burgundy Plum – Standard
Sweet, juicy and pleasing mild flavored plum with maroon skin and flesh, small pit and little or no tartness. High taste test scores. Very productive. Tree has narrow, upright habit. Prolonged harvest, late July to mid August. 300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro. 24.95

Green Gage Plum–Bavay’s – Standard
Superior selection of gage-type European plums, which are later blooming and more cold hardy than Santa Rosa and other Japanese types. Bavay’s is more productive in moderate winter climates than common Green Gage. Small to medium size fruit is richly flavored, very sweet. Excellent fresh and for cooking, canning. Ripens in late summer. Relatively small tree. Originated in Belgium in the 19th century. Estimated chilling requirement is 600 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro. 24.95

Mariposa Plum – Standard — SOLD OUT
Large, red fleshed, sweet, juicy, firm, delicious plum with small pit, nearly freestone. Mottled maroon over green skin. Use fresh or cooked. Ripens in August. 250 hrs. Pollinated by Catalina, Nubiana, or Santa Rosa. Available on Myro. 24.95

Methley Plum – Standard — SOLD OUT
Juicy, sweet plum with mild flavor. Flesh is red; skin is reddish purple. Attractive tree, heavy bearing and vigorous. Ripens in June. Recommended for Hawaii, yet cold hardy to zone 4. Less than 250 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro 24.95

Nubiana Plum – Standard
Large, sweet, firm fruit with amber flesh and dark purplish black skin. Has flattened shape with very little tartness at skin or pit. Favorite fresh market plum, excellent for home orchard. Ripens in late July/early Aug. 4-500 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro. 24.95

Santa Rosa Plum – Standard
Most popular plum in Calif. and Arizona. Juicy, tangy, flavorful amber flesh is tinged red. Has tart, reddish purple skin. Ripens late June. 300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Myro. 24.95

“Interspecifics are not recommended for areas that get extremely cold or that are subject to late frosts.  If you live in such an area and want to try anyway, Flavor King, Flavor Grenade and Dapple Dandy Pluots are your best choices.

Dapple Dandy Pluot – Standard — SOLD OUT

Fabulous new plum-apricot hybrid. Creamy white and red fleshed fruit has sweet, wonderful plum-apricot flavor. One of the highest rated fruits at recent taste tests; ranks with Flavor King and Flavor Supreme pluots. Skin is greenish yellow with red spots, turning to a maroon and yellow dapple. Ripens in August, between Flavor King and Flavor Queen. 400 hours. Pollenizer required: Flavor Supreme pluot, Santa Rosa or Burgundy plums. Pat. no. 9254 (Zaiger). Available on Myro. 26.95

Tri-Lite Peach X Plum – Standard
Incredible, delicate flavored fruit! This white fleshed peach x plum can be eaten firm. It has a mild classic white peach flavor and finishes with a wonderful plum aftertaste that makes this fruit a unique treat. Early ripening in June. Superior quality canning clingstone. 4-500 hours. Self-fruitful. Available on Lov. 26.95

I also ordered a few NUT TREES, but nothing that’s not guaranteed such as pecans.

And of course you can add trees not included in my list.  I just didn’t want mini and dwarf and multi graft trees and I was picky about the rootstock.

If you’d like to add a tree to our order, please check at https://baylaurelnursery.com/ whether it’s still available and then email the EXACT TREE NAME and PRICE.

Shipping is about $6 per tree.

Be sure to read the DESCRIPTION of the trees and note whether they need pollinators!

Our Bay Laurel Nursery bareroot fruit and nut tree order

I meant to post sooner, but due to ordering problems (described below), a snowstorm, a day without internet service and our co-op pickup, I got seriously delayed.

So here are the 25 fruit and nut trees we ordered and hopefully they will be shipped around 2/15/16.

High Desert Gardening Club members, friends and neighbors can add to our order to get a 20% discount off trees and shipping is about $6 per tree: Continue Reading

Add to our bare root fruit tree order for discounts

Fruit Trees Ordering Info

We’ll probably order from Bay Laurel Nursery at https://baylaurelnursery.com/ They have a TON of info online and so many varieties. However, as they are out of stock on many trees already, I’m also looking at Peaceful Valley http://www.groworganic.com.

Bay Laurel Nursery DISCOUNTSmost trees are $22 to $28, semi dwarf trees cost more than full size trees and multi grafted trees cost quite a bit more.

The following discounts apply to trees only – Fruit, Flowering and Nut:

  • 5 to 10 – 5% off
  • 11 to 15 – 10% off
  • 16 to 20 – 15% off
  • 21 or more – 20% off

SHIPPING: $25 for ONE tree, or $6.50 per tree if ordering 4 or more.

Shipping Discounts on Trees

  • For orders of 10 or more trees, 10% off shipping charges
  • For orders of 20 or more trees, 15% off shipping charges


I read http://www.davewilson.com/product-information-general/special-topics/fruit-tree-chilling-requirement and it’s so complicated, I decided to see what does well in Meadview (see http://highdesertpermaculture.org/blog/2015/11/25/happy-thanksgiving-and-pics-of-meadview-fruit-trees/ for some pics) and I looked them up at Bay Laurel Nursery:

Babcock Peach – Semi-dwarf

Longtime favorite white fleshed, freestone peach. Sweet and juicy, aromatic, subacid. Ripens mid July. Widely adapted: low chilling requirement, yet not early blooming. [important here because we often have late hard freezes.] 250-300 hrs. Self-fruitful. Available on Cit. $27.95

Granny Smith Apple – Semi-dwarf

From New Zealand. Large, late, green, all-purpose, very popular apple. Crisp, tart, excellent keeper. Requires long summer; thrives in hot climates. Prolonged bloom; good pollenizer for other apples. Ripens in Oct./Nov. 500 hours or less. Self-fruitful. Available on M111. $26.95

So I’m looking at trees with similar chill requirements and we’d like to get a Babcock Peach. With the Granny Smith ripening in October / November I’m concerned about freezes. We are at 3800 ft elevation, Meadview is a few hundred feet lower. I’m sure we have quite a few more chill hours than Meadview.

I just talked to the owner of the Babcock Peach and he got most of his trees from Willis Orchard and the Babcock came from the Home Depot (he got lucky!).  Unfortunately, he has no idea which rootstock he has for any of his trees.  While the Babcock did so well last year, a few years ago he got almost no peaches because we had a late hard frost.  And that’s why one should have SEVERAL fruit trees.

I also looked at Peaceful Valley trees and at http://www.groworganic.com/peach-muir-semi-dwarf.html they list a peach with 600 chill hours as growing well in the Central Valley, Cal. Isn’t it colder here than in the Central Valley?

And unfortunately, Peaceful Valley also sold out of many varieties already.

ROOTSTOCK – the most important criteria and why I’ll NEVER buy a fruit tree at the Home Depot or Walmart again.

Bay Laurel’s Babcock Peach rootstock:

Citation (Cit.)

Peaches and nectarines dwarfed to eight to fourteen feet, apricots and plums dwarfed to twelve to eighteen feet. Very tolerant of wet soil, but not drought tolerant (induces early dormancy in dry soil) so needs very regular water in hot climates. A top dressing of mulch can help maintain soil moisture. Resists root-knot nematodes. Induces heavy bearing at a young age. Very winter hardy. Strong and well anchored. Pat. No. 5112 (Zaiger)

I called Bay Laurel and found out that they also had the Babcock Peach on Lovell rootstock, but it’s already sold out! They recommend the Lovell rootstock for our area:

Lovell (Lov.)

Vigorous, standard rootstock for plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, prunes, almonds. More tolerant of wet soils than Nemaguard, also more cold hardy [we get single digit temps every few years]. Susceptible to nematodes in sandy soils. Provides good anchorage and high degree of disease resistance. Unpruned tree height of standard varieties 15-25 feet. Size can be controlled further with summer pruning.

They MIGHT be able to get a few more on Lovell rootstock. Didn’t think that they’d be sold out already!


Obviously, you won’t get fruit if you don’t have a pollinator UNLESS the tree is self-pollinating.


Bay Laurel:

If, after following the enclosed planting instructions, your plants do not leaf out and grow, we will replace them one time, the following season, provided you pay the cost of shipping and handling.


Both Peaceful Valley and Bay Laurel have a June 1 deadline to report dead trees for replacement the following season.

I can see already that we’ll be ordering again as soon as they start taking orders (November for Bay Laurel.)

If you’re interested to add to our order now or in fall, please post here!

Also, we plan on ordering more berries, kiwi, figs etc. from Hartmann’s, here is last year’s order info:

Add to our wholesale berry, fruit and nut tree orders

Schedule of local gardening events

By local I mean Mohave County and Southern Nevada.  So many workshops and Bob Morris just started the new Meetup  Las Vegas Desert Horticulture with the first meeting tomorrow.  The Kingman Dig It Community Garden is very active, the Master Gardeners have workshops  and the Kingman Home Steaders have a seed exchange coming up.

For a listing of events please check:


Mohave County Master Gardener classes starting next week

I took the class last year and I’m SO glad I did! I met great instructors and I joined the Kingman Master Gardeners. I learned a lot in class and at MG outings and as an active Master Gardener Associate I can audit classes for free. While I hate to have to be in Kingman by 8:30 AM, I already signed up for 4 classes. Hopefully the class will be in the afternoon next year (they alternate) as there’s so much to learn.

I posted the class schedule and registration form at


I’m scheduled to talk about PERMACULTURE at a MG workshop in June and I’ll be asking for YOUR help with that. What exactly IS permaculture?

We’ve been incredibly busy this winter and I haven’t been posting much, but I’ll definitely make an effort to update regularly about MG workshops as well as our projects.

Bob Morris free fruit tree pruning classes in Las Vegas

Instead of meeting for our regular monthly gardening club meeting we’ll attend the fruit tree pruning class on Saturday 12/19/15 in Las Vegas.   Bob Morris taught two of the Master Gardener classes in Kingman this spring and he’s extremely knowledgeable.

We’re leaving Meadview around 6:45 am and we still have a couple of seats in the truck available, so please let me know if you’re interested in riding with us.

You can also attend the class on quite a few other days, so if you plan on going to Vegas before Christmas, check it out:

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Happy Thanksgiving and pics of Meadview fruit trees

A neighbor sent me pics of their fruit trees and I can’t wait for our bare root trees to arrive!

We’ll be placing our order on time for delivery as soon as they start shipping.  If you’d like to add to our order, please join us at a High Desert Gardening Club meeting or contact me directly.



I love peaches!  We have a volunteer peach tree in our hoophouse, probably from a peach pit in the compost.  We’ll take the plastic off next spring and turn the hoophouse area into a garden.

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There might be some interesting food for thought.

Kettle Brand NON GMO chips contain MSG

I’ve been buying the Kettle Brand potato chips for quite some time because they claim to be GMO and MSG free.

So the other day we took a bag to friends and they informed us that “yeast extract” is MSG.   I found that hard to believe, but unfortunately they were right.  Yeast extract is MSG!

Kettle Brands has the NERVE to state on the package that it does not contain MSG. However, they ADMIT at their FAQ at http://www.kettlebrand.com/our_products/faqs/:

Do you use MSG in your products?

No, we do not use MSG in any of our products or in any of the ingredients in our products. Some ingredients we use, like tomato powder and yeast extract, are naturally high in amino acids including naturally occurring glutamic acid which is a component of MSG. People who have severe sensitivities to MSG may want to consider moderation in eating food with these ingredients. [emphasis added]

Talk about DECEPTION!

Obviously, I will NEVER buy another bag of Kettle Brand chips again as they won’t be removing this crap just because I don’t like it.

I submitted a copy of this post with this URL at the Kettle Brand site. 

They sure do NOT want to hear your concerns and make it extremely difficult to submit a message, REQUIRING your mailing address, the product UPS code, “best before date” and “Production Code”.  Since Kettle Brand products are no longer in our house, I had to switch to “other comments and concerns.”  And once again I had to retype ALL my info.  Talk about a company with nothing but contempt for their customers.  They do NOT want to hear from anybody!

Of course I will update with their response, if any.

And we’ll stick to corn chips, as it’s apparently impossible to get crap free potato chips.  I’m way too busy to spend hours reading labels, but if you have any recommendations for crap free potato chips, please let me know!

10/18/15 Update:  I received this response:

Hello Christine:
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. Your comments will be shared with the staff.
Cassy Frank
Consumer Affairs Manager
Kettle Brand, a division of Diamond Foods, Inc.

What’s that squash?

Our biggest squash ever:


It split open sometime today and I brought it inside. I tried to weigh it, but it’s over 11 lbs, the max for our scale.

I looked around the web for id, is it a Hubbard squash?

In case you’re wondering why I don’t know what I’m growing:

I had inoculated a wide variety of seeds prior to planting, including many melon and squash seeds, because I decided to use up all our pre 2013 seeds and we had LOTS.  I had each variety in a little plastic cup with a label and I stuck the cups into a planting tray.  A few days later I accidentally knocked the tray off the shelf and all the seeds ended up on the dirt floor.  I scraped up the big squash and melon seeds and planted them in the tree holes for our new orchard (we didn’t get done on time for bare root trees).  And apparently we’ve never grown this squash successfully before, as I’ve never seen this type of squash.

Despite the rather late planting in mid July we got quite a few melons and squash.  The spaghetti squash are the best producers, but we also got 3 of these and the other two are much smaller and odd shaped.

Today we looked at a slideshow of the new garden / orchard at our gardening club meeting and I’ll try to figure out how to best get the pics online without spending half a day.  We’ve had so much going on lately with hosting WWOOFers and major cleanup / reorganization, but I’ve literally taken thousands of pictures this year and it will take a while to review and post at least some of them.

And I seriously hope that today was our last triple digit day for the year, it’s supposed to cool down.  Can’t wait for fall!

10/17/15 update:  I’m pretty sure it’s a hubbard squash.   We weight the 2 halves and each was over 11 lbs.   Several neighbors got a good sized chunk and we make delicious squash soup.   Found that we had two plants (both died by now) and we got two small squash, nothing compared to this one.   We’ll definitely grow it again, but I don’t know why the others were so much smaller.